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From: Bill Pennington (billpboarder.org)
Date: Fri Feb 01 2002 - 10:38:35 CST

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    For any commercial site it is almost impossible to use any portion of the
    address for "authentication" or non-repudiation. The main reason is AOL. The
    last e-com site I managed 70% or our traffic came from AOL. IIRC AOL used
    proxy "pods" for their netblocks. I would watch users hop from IP to IP and
    sometime across entire subnets during a session. Now you could code your app
    to break for AOL users but if you are a commercial entity that could present
    a few problems.

    The best use to IP address authentication is in a LAN environment where
    users are far less likely to go address hoping.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <infoelitesoft.org>
    To: "Obscure" <obscureeyeonsecurity.net>
    Cc: "Joe Harrison" <list-generalntlworld.com>; "Securityfocus-Vulndev"
    <vuln-devsecurityfocus.com>
    Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:08 AM
    Subject: RE: CSS, CSS & let me give you some more CSS

    > If you use IP address for session cookie attacker can't use
    > stolen cookie.
    > However, you can't use IP address when BGP or Proxy are used.
    > In this case the best protection is to change session cookie
    > for each transaction using transaction counter.
    > This will provide a transaction non-repudiation.
    > If such session cookie is stolen and used by a hacker prior
    > to a user, then user session will be blown away.
    >
    > Mike
    >