* Rob Shein <shotenstarpower.net> [020712 21:11]:
> More to the point are the key copyright words, "without express written
> permission." I would feel very comfortable betting a month's salary
> that being hired to look for copyrighted materials by the owner of that
> copyright in this fashion is just that kind of permission. :)

 hey, they are really proud of that.

        http://www.rangerinc.com

        Chris

>
> On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 04:27, Kayne Ian (Softlab) wrote:
> > 2 points about this thread.
> >
> > First, a lot of people have posted responses to the effect of "Unless xxx
> > downloads the file that is supposedly breaching copyright, they can't tell
> > if you *are* breaching copyright or not, thus breaching it themselves".
> > Unfortunately this isn't true (at least for EDonkey). EDonkey creates a hash
> > of the file on your hd, and compares it with the hashes on everyone elses
> > hd. If you're in the middle of downloading the file, Edonkey can be sure
> > it's resuming the same file from someone else (regardless of filename) by
> > these hashes. Therefore to prove copyright infringment, all these companies
> > need to do is to confirm your hashes are the same hashes as a "real" warezed
> > version of whatever movie. Of course the movie house give the company legal
> > permission to download etc the file, therefore they are not in contravention
> > of copyright law. So all the company does is run a donkeybot or similar,
> > scan the network and log all the people who are sharing a file with hashes
> > that match a warezed ver of the movie. Until it becomes illegal to own a
> > checksum of a file...
> >
> > As a side note, this hashing works against them too. They may have been
> > flooding the p2p networks with "bad" versions of movies, but all any
> > sensible person needs to do is to use a website (sharereactor.com, for
> > example) and use the hash link off there. Providing the website is "true"
> > (and there are enough of them), you'll always be garanteed to download the
> > file you actually want.
> >
> > Secondly, companies & "entities" in the USA really need to get a damn grip
> > of themselves. A friend of mine received an email from a company saying he
> > was breaching the DCMA etc for exactly the same reason as Keith Tyler. The
> > problem? He lives in the UK, just like me. Sorry to tell you, no matter how
> > much you don't want to believe it (and how many times you put a Skylarov in
> > jail) American law does NOT apply worldwide.
> >
> > All that said, piracy is of course a crime. Views are my own. Standard
> > disclaimer applies etc etc.
> >
> > Ian Kayne
> > Technical Specialist - IT Solutions
> > Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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